The Obedience of Faith by Norman Grubb

The Obedience of Faith by Norman Grubb

Transcribed by Marian Sandbek from a taped
living room talk given in the 1970’s.
Edited by Fred Pruitt

Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, but now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith. Rom 16:25,26

Question: In the union life, where is responsibility for disobedience?

NPG: There is only one obedience in the Bible, the obedience of faith, not the obedience of works. The last verse in the book of Romans, which is kind of the standard book on gospel truth, it’s unto the obedience of faith. But, what’s that mean? It means I’m believing God is what He says He is. There’s only one wrong thing in life and that is not to believe that God is what He says He is. I don’t talk in terms of disobedience or obedience when I know who I am on the truth basis, on the Bible basis, which is that you and I are really Christ expressed in human forms. Of course, you see, if this life consists of God in me, it says, “God works in me to will and do.” I don’t will and do, then. Philippians says, “It is God that works in me to will and do of His good pleasure,” and I just fulfill His willing and doing. That’s why it’s an easy life. I don’t do a thing unless I’m made to. It’s great fun. The Bible doesn’t tell me to walk. The Bible tells me, in Ezekiel, that when He puts His spirit within me, He causes me to walk. Well, He does the walking then. He causes me to walk. I walk. I just get pushed along, that’s all.

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Sunday Baptisms in Raytown MO

Thank you Jesus you healed and we baptized 5 people at Bradley & Cassandra’s place in Raytown, MO on Sunday afternoon.

We only met them on Thursday last week on the phone when we prayed for their mother’s thyroid to go down and it did. Praise Jesus!
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The Obedience of Faith by Norman Grubb

I talked to a friend, I’d only met her once, with another friend. A woman about 40, I suppose, and she’s very new at this life. She knew Christ in her. You don’t know herself as Christ. She wrote me a flaming letter, poor thing, about 2 weeks ago. “What am I to do,” she says. “My husband’s walked out on me with another woman. I hate him! I’m boiling over. What am I to do?” She said, “I know about Christ in me. It didn’t work! I’m full up with rage and hurt and resentment and hate, really. He’s left me and left the kids and walked off with another woman. What am I to do? Don’t talk about Christ in me because I know that.” 
Of course, I said, “You don’t know it, because if you did you wouldn’t say ‘What am I to do?’ because you’re Christ. You’d say, ‘What does Christ do?’ You forget who you are, dear. You’re not you, you’re Christ. You’re Christ in human form. And of course you’re raging and may you be blessed to go on raging to cut your own throat in doing it. Be good for you maybe to do that. Rage away because you’d better rage because that’s a false thing! You’re listening to a lie. You’re not an independent self at all! You’re Christ in you! Now, when you find Christ in you, Christ loves everybody. He loves your husband and he’s got to save your husband although he’s left you. And he loves the woman he’s walked off with. And when you say, ‘Oh, I’ve got a chance now to show love, to express, to have God’s love towards a man in my own soul self I hate.’ …That’s your answer! 
“When you find you’re beginning to be occupied with how you can see by faith that Christ is operating in your husband and expressing that love all you can, not that your husband comes back to you but he gets back to Christ. And the woman too! Then you’ll find you’re free. Then it’s Christ’s freedom, not yours. Your mistake isn’t your hate, it’s that you think you’re an independent self. The disobedience of faith. It isn’t the hate that’s wrong. It isn’t the rage.” 

She’s justified in hating, on the human level. That’s not the trouble. It’s the disobedience of faith, of not believing who you are. You forget who you are. You’re so occupied as if you’ve come alive again and you’ve got this that’s happened to you, what’s going to happen to your children and so on. You’ve forgotten you’re not you at all, you’re Christ in you! Go back with who you are. How do you go back? Recognize who you are. 
There’s some justification in human level rage. That wasn’t the sin. It wasn’t a sin anyhow, it was not meeting temptation. And I said, “As for your children, you’ve got a wonderful thing. When you’ve got it in you that God meant your husband to do this, it’s all part of the way. God always means evil to be evil. God meant your husband to do this. This is how God’s going to do something for him and do something for the woman and, as for you, you’ve got a marvelous opportunity to show your children how you love a person who’s wronged you. They’ll learn far more than they’ll learn in any other kind of education. If your children could see that you’re loving and concerned about the husband who’s deserted you and been stolen by another woman, you’ve got something to show, you’ve got a real Christ to show your children. You needn’t worry about your children. They’ll really learn some riches.” 
But the answer’s simple. It wasn’t the husband leaving her. The Lord means evil to be evil. If you do evil then God means you to do it. We get a world banged up that way, that’s how we get our bangs. To get a few band aids on you from Jesus Christ. So that’s all right. So your tribulations become your adventure. But, the only real tribulation is not seeing who I am. There is a real suffering. Of course you suffer. There’s real suffering. You will suffer. Of course you’ll suffer. There is an element to human suffering and you’ll never get beyond that. We’re in the world but we suffer. And that’s physical suffering. So there is that. But that’s overflowed when you’re enjoying Christ. There is an element that still remains of suffering but it’s overflowed because it’s for the joy set before you you endured the cross. So did Jesus. For the joy set before me I endured the cross. Instead of suffering in the cross. But the joy overflowed the suffering.

See also Adventure in Adversity by Norman Grubb

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